Elden Ring Nightreign was one of the big headlines at The Game Awards, and sign-ups for a network test of it are set to open up this week. That's pretty rapid, but clearly it ain't rapid enough for some hardcore Souls heads, with one having decided to set themselves the challenge of dishing out a no hit boss beating every day until it's out.
]]>When Elden Ring: Nightreign was announced just a few weeks ago at The Game Awards, much of the discussion had a lot do with how surprising the reveal was. This is, after all, an online co-op game from a studio mostly known for its single-player experiences.
]]>After a good few weeks of 'will they, won't they' chatter surrounding Elden Ring and Bloodborne developer FromSoftware's parent company Kadokawa Corporation and a potential acquisition by Sony, the pair have announced a thing. It's a "strategic capital and business alliance" that's aimed at boosting collaborative ties, with Sony becoming the largest shareholder in Kadokawa.
]]>The best expansions are unmistakably grounded in their base game, but take all of their strongest ideas and distill them down into a more refined, self-contained experience which not only celebrates everything that made the original great, but takes it just that little bit further, too.
]]>Elden Ring director Hidetaka Miyazaki is taking a backseat for Nightreign, but he did have some solid advice for the spin-offs director.
]]>Elden Ring Nightreign was one of the big headlines at The Game Awards yesterday, as you'd expect from anything with FromSoftware's critically-acclaimed fingertips. Now, Bandai Namco has revealed that it'll be getting a network test early next year, with sign-ups starting in January.
]]>At The Game Awards 2024, Geoff Keighley announced that we're getting a (not quite) sequel to Elden Ring - and it's arriving in the form of a co-op focussed title that will allow multiple players to take on bosses from the original game in collaborative environments.
]]>Here's a fresh development in the ongoing saga regarding whether Bloodborne, and Dark Souls developer FromSoftware's parent company Kadokawa Corporation and Sony will put an Elden Ring on it. Sony itself has officially confirmed it's interested in such a takeover, and told everyone it'd really appreciate not having to do any more talking about it until it's ready.
]]>Sounds like there's plenty of good reasons to be a FromSoftware fan on the horizon, as studio head Hidetaka Miyazaki has teased its future titles.
]]>You know it, you love it, and now it’s got an insane Black Friday discount on it. That’s right, Elden Ring is down to just $20 on Amazon at the moment. There’s a reason we keep a quick link to content around this game at the top of the site; it has, quite frankly, earned its place among the gods of the gaming world.
]]>Kadokawa Corporation, the current majority owner of Elden Ring, Bloodborne, and Dark Souls developer FromSoftware, has confirmed that it's recieved an "an initial letter of intent to acquire the Company's shares" from Sony. However, it's also said that no decision has been made as to whether the former corp will sell up the latter as of right now.
]]>If you're looking for something fitting to watch in order to celebrate Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree getting a game of the year nomination at this year's Game Awards Keighleyfest, you'll be looking at a bit of a longer wait if you're planning on it being the Elden Ring anime that got a cool teaser earlier this year.
]]>Sony is reportedly in talks to buy Japanese media giant Kadokawa Corporation, the current majority owner of Elden Ring, Bloodborne, and Dark Souls developer FromSoftware, in an attempt to expand its portfolio of entertainment stuff.
]]>The Game Awards is revealing all the nominees poised to take home some awards next week, and it wants you to know that could include DLC, expansions, and remakes.
]]>FromSoftware's parent company, Kadokawa Corporation, has 20 console games in the work following the astronomical success of Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree, as well as six mobile games cooking away. It's safe to say, big things are coming from Japan under the Kadokawa umbrella.
]]>Do you enjoy treating Elden Ring's bosses to the power of your fists? Don't worry, you can admit it, we're all friends here. Especially since the latyest patch to hit the Shadow of the Erdtree-enhanced game is partly aimed at making sure you can have a good time practicing your hobby .
]]>Warning, spoilers for Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree lie ahead.
]]>Ok, you remember that Aspects of the Crucible: Thorns incantation FromSoft showed off as part of the official images for Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree we got long before it came out. Yeah, the one that turns your Tarnished into a hedgehog, kinda? Well, someone's now beaten the entirety of the base game and the DLC using just that, in less than 13 hours.
]]>Everyone loves Radahn! Perhaps one of the most memorable bosses in Elden Ring is a fan favourite among players and far-flung spectators alike. But if you're still hungry for some time with FromSoftware's beloved horse rider you can spend an indefinate amount of time with the bloke in an unexpected game: League of Legends.
]]>Bad news everyone. If you've been looking to put yourself at the top of the list of most bizarrely difficult Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree boss kills, you're gonna have to do a lot to top what one streamer's just done to our good buddy Messmer.
]]>We've all be enjoying the inevitable array of challenge runs and unorthodox boss kills that've come out of Elden Ring's Shadow of the Erdtree expansion since it arrived late last month, and the good news is that it doesn't look like things will be slowing down for a little bit yet. As of right now, for example, there's a streamer casually prepping to try and deliver what we assume would be the world's first no-hit run of it using a musical instrument.
]]>I should have been better. But I’m not, and here I am.
]]>Do you remember when Elden Ring was first announced? That beautiful moment back during E3 2019, when FromSoftware — at that point riding the high of Dark Souls' and Bloodborne's acclaim — presented a fresh spin on its signature hardcore fantasy RPG formula. It was like Dark Souls, but not quite. A new world, with a new spin. That moment before we were able to jump into this new adventure was truly special, and it's a feeling I'd quite like to experience again. And again, and again.
]]>Look, it's ok to feel sad about a proper Bloodborne PC port being a thing we may well never get, even if some folks who aren't Sony keep trying to do a thing. However, if you want to take that energy and channel it into something positive once you've learned a bit about modding, the creator of a cool Bloodborne-themed Elden Ring mod is looking for some help.
]]>Elden Ring loves its mysteries. Strange gods, forbidden unions, an unknown vow between brothers that changes the fate of the world. At the center of all this, and Elden Ring itself, is the biggest mystery and the game’s most important character: Marika. Despite her significance, she’s the only character you never really meet and who never speaks for herself. It’s a bizarre state of affairs, considering this goddess-queen forced an entire world to submit to her rule and created an entire new religion with herself at the center.
]]>Warning, spoilers for Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree lie ahead.
]]>Warning, spoilers for Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree lie ahead.
]]>Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree expansion has gone a long way in making crafting and upgrading specific items significantly easier. That isn’t just thanks to common enemies dropping an abundance of Smithing Stones either, but with the addition of certain Bell Bearings, getting items such as String and Knot Resin without farming them is simpler than ever.
]]>Elden Ring has introduced its fair share of new bosses in the Shadow of the Erdtree expansion, and FromSoftware has definitely gone above and beyond with some of the foes it has cooked up. Take Romina, Saint of the Bud for example. A humanoid saint with a scorpion’s stinger, centipede’s head, and butterflies wings; it’s safe to say Messmer has put this maiden through a lot.
]]>Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree expansion has added plenty of new gear to the already gargantuan game, giving Tarnished the opportunity to destroy fan-favourite bosses all over again with completely new builds. One type of build that has proved fruitful throughout the DLC involves making yourself as tanky as possible, helped along by the Verdigris Discus Talisman.
]]>There's now a premium, extended version of this podcast that you can get as a VG247 paid subscriber - check out our Support Us page for more info. Doing so helps ensure that we can keep making the show! But don't worry if that's not for you, the main show will always be free.
]]>Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree has introduced a new map full of bosses to beat, dungeons to explore, and loot to find. Not just that, but FromSoftware has also added an abundance of new weapons and gear to the game so that you can beat new enemies in style. And if style is what you’re going for, you definitely want to give Wing Stance a whirl.
]]>Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree expansion hasn’t just added a whole new area to explore, and bosses to beat, but also a dozen weapons to go about battering them to a pulp with. One weapon that stands out amongst the crowd but can take some time to get your hands on is the Fire Knight’s Greatsword.
]]>Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree has plenty of weapons for you to choose from, and if you’re a fan of Curved Swords such as the Shamshir or Eclipse Shotel, you’ll no doubt enjoy using the Falx. The weapon has minimal requirements, dishes out plenty of bleed, and can be grabbed as early as Shadow Keep.
]]>Warning, spoilers for Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree lie ahead.
]]>Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree expansion introduced plenty of new weapons to the game for Tarnished to experiment with, and while many stand out as being the latest overpowered weapon to fell foes with, others stand out for the unique way in which you get your hands on them. Namely, the Stone-Sheathed Sword and its counterparts, the Sword of Darkness and Sword of Light.
]]>Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree is a sizable DLC with a dense map full of secrets to discover, and one area that you might find yourself curious about are the Ruins of Unte. These ruined buildings don’t seem like much at first, but you can go inside the ruins if you’ve a Hefty Furnace Pot to hand.
]]>If you're waiting for news on an Elden Ring adaptation that isn't just George R.R. Martin vaguely trolling us via his blog, you're in luck. A fan-made anime based on FromSoft's creation has just gotten a teaser trailer ahead of its arrival this fall.
]]>Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree expansion has introduced a whole range of new weapons, spells, and other gear to the already gargantuan RPG, leaving players spoilt for choice. Spellcasters and Bleed fans in particular can rejoice though, given the addition of a brand-new, powerful spell - Impenetrable Thorns - that can make even the hardest of bosses incredibly easy.
]]>There are a few weapons introduced as part of Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree DLC that stand out amongst the crowd; one of them being the Bloodfiend’s Arm. The Colossal Weapon, which sees you depleting the health pools of enemies in just a few hits in our Bloodfiend’s Arm build, is well worth trying out.
]]>As you get deeper and deeper into Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree DLC, it just keeps getting more and more confusing. The end-game begins at the Ancient Ruins of Rauh, a multi-levelled maze filled with floating platforms, dark tombs and missile-firing prawn guys around every corner.
]]>Warning, spoilers for Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree lie ahead.
]]>Picking up the best Elden Ring DLC Spirit Ash summons gives you a fighting chance against some of the toughest Shadow of the Erdtree enemies. Most of the top-tier ones are tied to Elden Ring's new NPC quests, but you can find a few high-performing ashes scattered around the Land of Shadow as well.
]]>Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree has introduced a lot of new weapons to the gargantuan game, and some of them are very impressive. It’s also safe to say that fans of Faith are spoiled for choice with all the new additions, but one of the best weapons for any Faith player to try out is the Euporia.
]]>Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree has an abundance of weapons to choose from, and Euporia is an impressive Faith-scaling twinblade that you won’t find until your journey through the Realm of Shadow is nearly over. Though, it is one you’ll likely want to run around New Game Plus with given how impressive it can be with the right build.
]]>Warning, spoilers for Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree may lie ahead.
]]>Midra’s Manse is a horrific haunted house at the heart of the Abyssal Woods in Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree DLC. It’s one of the most unique areas in the whole of the Lands Between, and offers a variety of great rewards for those who dare to step foot inside.
]]>The Acolyte showrunner Leslye Headland has compared the show's big bad to Elden Ring in an amusing and pretty relatable way.
]]>Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree expansion has introduced an abundance of new weapons to the game, all of which can be taken back to The Lands Between with you to beat up all manner of enemies. It’s quickly become clear that some of these weapons are much more overpowered than others, and one of those in question is the Bloodfiend’s Arm.
]]>Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree expansion has even more paintings for you to find, and that means tracking down the painters who produced them for some sweet rewards. Fortunately, there’s only three to worry about locating in the DLC, and their rewards are well worth the time spent seeking them out, especially if you like dragons.
]]>Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree is packed with secrets for keen Tarnished to uncover, especially given its smaller, denser map. Much like the base game, some solutions - and rewards - hide in plain sight, but can be easily missed given some obtuse prerequisites that aren’t always straight-forward.
]]>Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree has provided FromSoft masochists with a whole heap of big new bosses to get stomped by and then stomp for themselves, so naturally the DLC's release has pretty quickly spawned calls for the game to have a system that'll faciliate some easily accessible boss fight rematches added to it next.
]]>The best Elden Ring DLC spells give your build a big step up and add new ways to play, but not all of Shadow of the Erdtree’s spells are worth respeccing for. A handful of sorceries and incantations have much more to offer than the likes of Crucible: Bloom or whatever the heck the finger shield spell is supposed to do, though some of them are also tougher to find.
]]>Swordhand of Night, Jolan is one of a few NPCs to be discovered in Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree, and while she doesn’t initially have much to say, advancing Count Ymir’s quest will earn you her trust. That is until you completely destroy that small semblance of trust, anyway.
]]>Warning, spoilers for Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree lie ahead.
]]>Storytelling-wise, Elden Ring's famous for being chock full of folks just subtlely alluding to things, without explicitly spelling out the whole picture, and it seems writer George R.R. Martin's embraced that philosophy in his real world interactions too. Well, he has specfically when it comes to acknowledging rumours of a potential Elden Ring TV or film adaptation.
]]>Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree DLC wouldn’t be much of an expansion if there weren't a dozen of overlapping quest lines and obscure items to find the real purpose of. One of these peculiar items with a hidden use is Thiollier’s Concoction, a deadly brew that you can receive as part of both Thiollier’s quest and Moore’s quest.
]]>If you've been desperate to play Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree in seamless co-op, I've got great news: the mod has just been updated.
]]>There’s no shortage of Elden Ring DLC weapons. FromSoftware added over 100 new armaments to Shadow of the Erdtree, from freaky little whips to swords with spectacular skills and a particularly potent sorcery staff you can only get from completing an easily missable side quest. The balance of weapon types isn’t exactly even. Faith and dexterity builds have the most freedom to choose in Shadow of the Erdtree, but there’s something unique and fun for any Elden Ring build.
]]>Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree expansion has been a real treat for those who are fans of inflicting Sleep on foes, given that we now have access to Eternal Sleep. It’s the same status effect, but with a little bit of a buff, considering its capable of putting weaker enemies into an almost-permanent slumber.
]]>Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree DLC introduced plenty of new content. Not only is there the huge Realm of Shadow and its various Legacy Dungeons to explore, but there are new weapons, gear, and even Ashes of War to track down. Some of these are brilliant additions to the game, giving some weapons a new lease of life.
]]>Warning, spoilers for Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree lie ahead.
]]>Elden Ring's Shadow of the Erdtree DLC got off to a tougher start than many might have predicted Steam review-wise, with the likes of complaints about the expansion's difficulty and some performance issues having earned it in an initial thumbs down from plenty of folks on PC. Now though, it's back in the "Mostly Positive" column.
]]>Warning, spoilers for Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree lie ahead.
]]>Lurking deep in the east of the Shadow Realm in Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree DLC, the Abyssal Woods is one of the most horrendous areas the Tarnished has ever had to face on their journey to becoming Elden Lord.
]]>If there’s one thing to remember when crafting an Elden Ring build, it’s that you gotta have Faith. Even with the release of Shadow of the Erdtree, the best Faith build relies on a classic weapon with immense power!
]]>Tucked into the eastern corner of the Black Keep, the Church District in Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree hides a terrible secret…
]]>Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree has introduced the Tarnished to plenty of new bosses, as well as a whole roster of weapons, talismans, and other gear to try out. One new item is the Chilling Perfume Bottle, which when built around effectively, can make for a rather fun and easy to use Frost build.
]]>Souls games are excellent at making you want to go forward, to explore that weird ruin and massive castle right in front of you. A lot of this comes down to framing, making it so the moment you step through a doorway a giant landmark is perfectly in view as the music kicks in. This is true for Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree too, with two exceptions. Any time the DLC popped up a text box, the game flipped it. It's one of the best uses of a simple notification I've seen in a video game in recent memory.
]]>Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree has introduced dozens of new weapons, talismans, and spells to the game, and the expansion has proved to be a real treat for both Faith fans and those who like to stack devastating amounts of Bleed on their opponents. This Impenetrable Thorns build focuses on the latter, using Arcane and Intelligence to forge a rather formidable, cheesy build.
]]>Elden Ring's Shadow of the Erdtree DLC might have just gotten a bit of balancing designed to help make it just a little bit less tough, but prior to that, director Hidetaka Miyazaki had been pretty steadfast in saying that lowering the game's difficulty wouldn't be an ideal move. However, contrary to what you might expect, it sounds like the developer's not taking that stance because he's one of the many uber-skilled folks who've thoroughly mastered battling through tough bosses.
]]>Let Me Solo Her - Elden Ring's most famous player - grew a legendary reputation for offering his services to desperate players struggling to beat Malenia, Blade of Miquella in the base game. With Shadow of the Erdtree's release, they've packed up camp and set up shop in front of a new foe.
]]>Make sure you're sitting down. Ok, here we go. Elden Ring's Shadow of the Erdtree boss Messmer's just been beaten by a streamer on a dance pad. Yep. It was inevitable, and it's just as glorious to watch as you'd hope.
]]>Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree’s Charo’s Hidden Grave location sounds like a small place – just a tiny grave, nothing major. It’s actually half of the Cerulean Coast area, and there’s more than one hidden treasure, another gaol, and an excellent weapon inside.
]]>Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree has provided players with plenty more gear to try out, which is already leading to some very interesting - and powerful - builds to obliterate bosses with. This Beast Claws build focuses on trying to stack Bleed on opponents as quickly as possible, and while it bears some similarities to our Dryleaf Arts build, the Beast Claws see you playing a lot more aggressively.
]]>With Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree expansion having over 100 different weapons to choose from, as well as new gear, spells, and more, there’ll likely come a point sooner or later where you might feel like changing your build with a Respec, and trying something new. This is where Larval Tears come in, and the good news is that there are plenty to find in the Realm of Shadow.
]]>Elden Ring's Shadow of the Erdtree DLC might have just gotten a bit of balancing designed to help make its earlier stages a bit less tough, but the difficulty hasn't stopped plenty of ER experts from blazing hrough it in less time than you can say 'I love me some Scadutree Fragments'. In fact, one of the streamers who's done just that is alrready taking on the task of trying to one shot a bunch of its bosses.
]]>Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree has gotten its first balance patch, and it's a small but impactful one. This balance calibration, posted on the official Elden Ring website, has significantly improved the stat enhancements granted with initial Shadow Realm Blessings: Scadutree blessings and Revered Spirit Ashes.
]]>Shadow of the Erdtree finally makes it possible for you to put together a viable Elden Ring Perfumer build, and you have a lot of flexibility in deciding how you want it to work. You can opt for elemental builds – assuming you have the stats for it – use Perfume Bottles as secondary weapons augmenting another build, or ignore all other weapons and just throw sparks at enemies. A particularly strong Ash of War unique to Perfumers makes that last option a stronger possibility than you might think.
]]>With Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree DLC introducing over 100 new weapons to the game, including eight new weapon types, there is plenty of interesting gear to be experimenting with. While some weapons are fun to use but don’t really stand a chance against the Realm of Shadow’s formidable foes, Dryleaf Arts manages to be both fun and viable against bosses.
]]>Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree is firmly out in the wild, and with its release the lore hounds have been running wild and scavenging for any and all breadcrumbs that could help expand and clarify the murky waters of Elden Ring's story. WHile the DLC does answer a bunch of open questions, there's one character who has remain a bit of a mystery.
]]>If you’re looking for Smithing Stones or new weapons to add to your arsenal in Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree, you ideally want to keep your eyes peeled for ruined forges. These areas contain Smithing Stones in abundance, as well as plenty of other loot.
]]>Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree is home to over 100 new weapons for players to experiment with, and a few of these are known as Smithscript weapons. While not incredibly overpowered or anything like that, these weapons are throwable and thus, really good fun to play around with.
]]>Since it came out, one of the big talking points about Elden Ring's Shadow of the Erdtree DLC has been its difficulty, as well as how its systems differ from the base game. The need to collect Scadutree Fragments in order to avoid a bunch of hassle in leveling up your character has proven a bit controversial, but there's now a mod that aims to do away with this treasure hunt.
]]>Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree's Dragon's Pit is one of the first miniature Shadow of the Erdtree dungeons you’ll likely run into, and while it’s short, there’s a humdinger of a surprise inside. It’s not a pleasant place, but if you want to see everything the Elden Ring DLC has to offer, including the Bayle fight and a whole storyline involving dragons, you’ll have to make the trek eventually.
]]>The most terrifying part of Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree DLC isn’t the gigantic bosses, unexpected ambushes or horror-focused stealth sections, but when you’re wandering towards the Black Keep, a smashing sound effect plays and you get the message: “somewhere a Great Rune has broken”.
]]>Are you the last living gentleman in the Lands Between? Well, fedoras at the ready, because Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree DLC has the perfect weapon for you to prove chivalry isn’t dead: Milady.
]]>Elden Ring puts you on the path to becoming a god, and the Shadow of the Erdtree DLC lets you meet more of the pantheon than ever.
]]>Struggling to beat Radahn and Mohg, but desperate to play Shadow of the Erdtree? Some helpful Elden Ring players might be able to sort you out.
]]>Bloodborne 2 is not going to happen, so why not try Graceborne, a great looking Elden Ring mod that seeks to overhaul FromSoftware's latest Soulslike.
]]>Ok, so it's fair to say the current verdict about Elden Ring's Shadow of the Erdtree DLC is that it certainly isn't easy, even in the eyes of the kind of FromSoft vets who might've expected to be able to breeze through without thinking. That said, as one streamer's busy demonstrating, it is possible to scythe through the expansion's bosses using just your brain.
]]>If you're having a tough time with Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree, there's a mod that just got an update that should help you out.
]]>George R. R. Martin was an important part of building Elden Ring's world, and it seems like FromSoftware would be open to similar collaborations in the future.
]]>Elden Ring: Shadow of the Erdtree has done well critically, but Steam reviews are painting a different picture.
]]>The main story of Elden Ring deals with demi-gods, legends, kings and queens, but the Shadow of the Erdtree DLC puts the devoted followers of these powerful nobles in the spotlight.
]]>Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree has a few colourful characters for you to meet, and for once, these NPCs don’t actually want to kill you from the outset. Instead, they offer help with your quest to track down Miquella. Hornsent is one of these, providing you with maps of Miquella’s Crosses and other information about the Realm of Shadow.
]]>Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree has a fair few notable characters to introduce yourself to, and the first one that you will meet is Needle Knight Leda. First found at the Cocoon of the Empyrean, Leda is a very important character in the Realm of Shadow, and someone you ought to regularly check in with.
]]>Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree DLC sees the Tarnished searching for the missing Empyrean, Miquella the Kind, throughout the dark Lands of Shadow - but they’re not doing it alone.
]]>A former devotee of Mohg, Lord of Blood, Sir Ansbach the retired Pureblood Knight is one of the central characters in Elden Ring’s Shadow of the Erdtree DLC.
]]>Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree’s Dragon Hunter’s Great Katana – that’s a mouthful – might seem like a pretty skippable weapon at first glance. It’s a big katana, so it moves slower than regular ones, and since there’s another big katana at the other end of Gravesite Plain, you might think “why bother?” The answer is the Bayle boss fight. And basically every other dragon, but especially Bayle.
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